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 Post subject: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:20 am 
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I’m am currently exploring intercom options for use when I drag my good lady along for a day out. Has anyone out there have experience in the use of such devices? The two main options for the headset I have come across are over the ear headsets (which do not look so good), or moulded ear buds with speakers connected to an intercom control unit, maybe with throat mikes. I am conscious that my hearing is degrading and I want to protect what I have left for as long as possible.

Any information or views would be welcome...

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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:20 pm 
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Andy,
I've used bike intercoms, wired and bluetooth and found wind noise (and in a PEMBLETON exhaust drone) made conversation difficult. I' ve also tried a friend's BMW bike system -bluetooth and integrated in to his crash helmet. The throat microphone fitted under "neck gaiters" and could pair with your audio system, satnav and passenger, but was really expensive ( the helmet alone was over £800) and complicated.

In "Bolide" at normal motoring speeds, we don't chat and use a series of hand signals for turning/ roundabout exits. If a "chat" is needed, it's easier to pull over and a good excuse for refreshments!

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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:53 pm 
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Andy, I have a Terraphone set up which I do not use, shortage of passengers ;-). You are welcome to try it but I am currently in US, return about 10th July if that is any use?

Tom

PS it is the one I am wearing on the avataar!

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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:15 pm 
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Thanks Tom, I would like to take you up on your offer. See you when you get back.

Andy


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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:04 pm 
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I wear custom-made earplugs in the Pembleton and on the bike to deal with the exhaust and wind noise as I value what is left of my hearing. My limited experience of intercom use helped me to decide that a new language was required. I agree with Mike, pointing and a single word shout can be extremely effective! Coffee/lunch stops allow for conversation.

"Emtec noise breakers" are extremely effective and I recommend them without hesitation. There will be a hearing centre near you which can take moulds of your ears and supply different suppression rates for industrial, musician or motorcycle/car wind howl. I bought some in 2007 and wish I'd got them 25 years before.


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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:12 pm 
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I can only second Duncan's recommendation for custom moulded earplugs. And DO go to a hearing specialist, and NOT to the people at motorbike shows who know next to nothing about ears. They're even useful when camping when there are snoring / noisy neighbours. I wore mine for the last couple of nights, on a BMW camping weekend, and heard nothing all night. And no sore ears in the morning!

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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:00 pm 
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Andy,

I fitted a StarCom1 Digital (bought from eBay from a guy who taken it out of his Morgan 4/4) and am pretty pleased with it. It talks to my mobile using Bluetooth for when I have the GPS running (which is an app on the phone), and it automatically switches to intercom when someone starts talking. The intercom itself seems to work ok, my head pokes right out into the airstream so there's potentially a lot of wind noise, but it seems to handle it pretty well - I sometimes have to use my hand to shield the mic when we're at speed so the passenger can hear it clearly, but below 50mph or so it handles things fine.

The Starcom1 system came with a couple of Peltor style headsets. These are great for the kids, but if you have a big head they might be a bit tight. We use the headsets when pottering around. I tend to use moulded in-ear headphones which have a mic clipped to the right ear plug (a NanoComm unit bought from Audiofit intended for pilots to use) when I'm wearing a soft hat (flying helmet or flat cap usually). This works really well, the only problem being that when I first got it it wouldn't activate the Starcom1 unit (which needs the drivers headset to be plugged in) - Audiofit arranged for me to send one of the Peltor headsets and the NanoComm unit off to the manufacturer who found out that it needed a pull-up resistor to work, which was all done and turned around within a week.

We tend to wear helmets when going distance or if we plan to use busy fast roads (I've had too many cracked windscreens over the years to trust that a soft hat would off any protection). The kids helmet is fitted with the StarCom1 speakers and mic which all seems to work fine - even though they wear disposable ear plugs with it on. I have some moulded ear plugs which sit flush to my ear which plug into a StarCom1 mic that's fitted to the helmet (the NanoComm headset interferes with the helmet so I struggle to make it comfortable), which again works fine.

The StarComm1 unit is a wired system, which means you have to be carful of dangling wires, but I find it works really well. I did also try a friend's Bluetooth helmet headset system but it didn't deal with the wind noise very well, although it was more convenient to use without all the dangling wires.

I'm pretty pleased with the set up. it's not perfect, particularly at speed, but given the challenges (with wind noise) it's a pretty impressive system.

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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:49 pm 
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duncan grimmond wrote:
I wear custom-made earplugs in the Pembleton and on the bike to deal with the exhaust and wind noise as I value what is left of my hearing. My limited experience of intercom use helped me to decide that a new language was required. I agree with Mike, pointing and a single word shout can be extremely effective! Coffee/lunch stops allow for conversation.

"Emtec noise breakers" are extremely effective and I recommend them without hesitation. There will be a hearing centre near you which can take moulds of your ears and supply different suppression rates for industrial, musician or motorcycle/car wind howl. I bought some in 2007 and wish I'd got them 25 years before.


This prompted me to buy some ear plugs from Boots the chemist as a trial. They are soft sponge and expand to suit your ear canal - about £4 for 3 pairs.
A great result - much less wind noise and all those worrying squeaks, clattering and rattling noises have been cured !
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 Post subject: Re: Intercom options
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:00 am 
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Thanks for all of the replies. I do want to try to get a system working so that I can chat whilst driving. Thanks Tom, I would love to give your headset a try - I will call you when you back home. I was leaning towards a set up as described by Paul - however for a duo set with intercom I would be looking at a cost of around £750. On alternative is to use a Cardo Scala Rider Freecomm Bluetooth system with in ear moulded ear pieces - cost around £400. Has anyone tried such a set up?

Andy


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This prompted me to buy some ear plugs from Boots the chemist as a trial. They are soft sponge and expand to suit your ear canal - about £4 for 3 pairs.
A great result - much less wind noise and all those worrying squeaks, clattering and rattling noises have been cured !
david[/quote]

The disadvantage of stock earplugs is that they block all noise. The Emtec ones have a small passage through with an attenuation chamber which allows you to hear a reduced level of sounds. This means you can still hear new noises which may be valuable for investigative purposes and restore the perpetual state of alertnes (or terror!).


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