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 Post subject: Engine and MSVA
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:48 pm 
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Quick question chaps,

My guzzi engine is a 1994, i have the v5 from the bike it came from etc - so an MSVA would require an emissions check - not the end of the world as i know some people have already done this.

If I change the engine on my donor from 2cv to guzzi, supplying all the relevant info to do so (making the guzzi engine number on the 2cv donor v5), then use the updated paperwork for the pembleton build, then am i using the donor cars engine? Would it or would it not need an emissions check at MSVA?

or am i likely to just tie myself up in knots?

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 Post subject: Re: Engine and MSVA
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:05 pm 
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Niall,
A trike tested under MSVA is effectively the same as testing a bike - exhaust emissions test is of the order of "visible smoke"?

Bolide, a 4 wheeler, was tested under SVA (now subsumed by IVA) and had to meet the emissions regulations relating to the year of engine manufacture - in my case 1981 - so not difficult, even with carbs and no cat.

I don't think your engine will be tested for emissions to be taken in to account for a pass/fail. The tester may well take them and include them on the certificate, but if you're uncertain, ask VOSA by email. I've found them most helpful.

Involving DVLA unnecessarily is to be avoided. They have enough problems trying to get the routine procedures right, let alone a "record adjustment".

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 Post subject: Re: Engine and MSVA
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:36 pm 
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Niall,
Just checked the MSVA manual - section 19/1 relates to exhaust emissions (Spark Ignition engines). You should be OK.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine and MSVA
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:06 pm 
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone had an MSVA pass ( three wheeler ) with a 750 Guzzi engine? I'm guessing a fireguard would be required as with the 2CV engine.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine and MSVA
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:52 pm 
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Yes I did. I still have the fireguard if it's of use.
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 Post subject: Re: Engine and MSVA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:59 am 
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Hi Robin. Thanks for that. I'll bear that in mind, although I'm some way off MSVA at the moment. Did you have to provide evidence of the age of the engine at registration? If so, what did they want? Just trying to avoid any bear traps before it's too late!

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 Post subject: Re: Engine and MSVA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:04 pm 
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I actually don't remember if I had to prove the engine age. But just in case I had a copy of the log book of the bike that donated the engine.
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